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Rian Johnson talked about Snoke and drew some comparisons with Emperor Palpatine about their stories as we won’t get his whole stories in The Last Jedi, we will only know about him what we need to know for this story. So I think it would be interesting once the Sequel trilogy is finished to get Snoke’s full story in either on a comics form or through an animated medium to truly understand the character.
“We got the whole story of Palpatine’s rise to power in the prequels, but in the original films he’s exactly what he needs to be, which is just ‘The Emperor’”Johnson tells Empire in the new October issue. “He’s a dark force: the scary thing behind the thing. That was entirely how I approached Snoke. I wasn’t interested in explaining where he came from or telling his history, except where it serves this story.”
Johnson also talked about Kylo Ren.
“Writing Kylo Ren is just so much fun,” says Johnson “Star Wars boils down to the transition from adolescence into adulthood. That’s the heart of these films and Rey is most obviously the one that hangs on. But it’s also Kylo. In the originals you project entirely onto Luke, while Vader is the scary other — he’s the minotaur. The fascinating thing about Kylo and Rey is that they’re two sides of something. We can all relate to Kylo: to that anger of being in the turmoil of adolescence and figuring out who he’s going to be as a man; dealing with anger and wanting to separate from his family. He’s not Vader — at least, he’s not Vader yet — and that’s something I really wanted to get into.”
With The Force Awakens, we could see that Kylo Ren mirrors Anakin in many ways and it seems that it will continue with The Last Jedi. Even his costume for this new movie is similar to a Revenge Of The Sith concept art costume for Anakin as we talked about it in our article of the Vanity Fair photoshoot. Kylo is on the same level of complexity as Anakin, they face the same dilemma. This “that anger of being in the turmoil of adolescence and figuring out who he’s going to be as a man” side of Kylo Ren is exactly what Anakin is facing in Attack of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith. These whiny, angry Kylo Ren moments we saw in TFA are the same kind of whiny, angry moments Anakin had in the Prequels. It’s all part of how these characters are written and part of their emotional journey. The main difference between Kylo and Anakin is Kylo is already with the villains while Anakin was a Jedi. It’s going to be exciting to see what is next for Kylo.
Mark Hamill talked about Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi.
“Luke’s changed a lot. It was as shocking for me to read what Rian had written as I am sure it will be for the audience. I was surprised by the way he saw Luke – to hear him say something like, ‘It’s time for the Jedi to end’ – and I wasn’t even sure I agreed with it. Being the caretaker of the character I have a possessive attitude towards him, but even though it’s not the way I would have gone, the more I got into the work, the more I realized I was wrong.”
Rian Johnson had a few words about Luke as well and how he thought about working on the character:
“Who is Luke Skywalker? But more than that, who’s Luke Skywalker now? I grew up with an idea of who Luke was, so the real question was why is Luke on that island? Luke’s no coward, he is not hiding from a fight, so there must be some reason he’s there that makes sense to him. That was the first nut to crack. The seed for the whole story was inside that shell. I just had to get to it.
The Force Awakens might have been a film about Luke Skywalker, but The Last Jedi is Luke Skywalker’s film. Missing for decades, his trusty X-Wing rusting beneath the waves, Luke finds redemption in the form of Rey.”
It surely is not the same Luke we last saw in Return of The Jedi and that’s what I would call a great character development. It makes sense to have a different Luke Skywalker and not have an all confident winning hero. Thirty years have passed and the character has obviously changed. It’s really something I’m looking forward to see and I think it’s the right move Johnson made.
The last thing worth mentioning is people often think that the Sequel trilogy was all planned out and there’s a lot of micro-managing by the producers but it’s not the case and I think it’s great that Rian Johnson talked about it and explained how the process was because he really had creative control on the movie:
“The perception of these films is that they’re all planned out on a secret sheet of paper in advance, but that’s just not the case. I wasn’t given an outline of where it goes or even a list of things to hit. It really was just, ‘Okay, what’s next?’”
For the rest of Empire’s coverage, you can check our article about Poe’s X-Wing, Finn, Rose and Canto Bight.